Each pushes a weight against his chest, and howls
at his opponent each time they clash:
"Why do you squander?" and "Why do you hoard?" Each wheels
To roll his weight back round again: they rush
Toward the circle's opposite point, collide
Painfully once more, and curse each other afresh;
(Canto VII lines 27-30)
In Canto VII Virgil and Dante descend into the second layer of hell that's filled with the greedy people of the world. They shout "Why do you squander" and "why do you hoard" because hoarding and squandering are the two ways to be greedy. You are either greedy in that you want money to buy a bunch of stuff with or you are greedy in that you want more money for the sake of having money. It's ironic that these two greed-sects are forced to co-exist since they exist in perfect contrast to one another, perhaps that is part of their punishment.
I think its very important to notice that many of the greedy individuals are called clergy members. This is yet another Guelph/Ghibelline quip against the church. Dante was a leader of the white Guelphs (the white ones didn't like the pope so much)and by saying that the clergymen were in the greedy part of hell he was definitely saying something. Its interesting that Dante keeps trying to recognize people in all these circles, he always says to Virgil how he'd like to look at them to see if he knows them, I find that very odd. Perhaps Dante is a perceptive gentlemen and has noticed sins in his acquaintances... I dunno.
Little note about this part, Dante doesn't name any of the greedy people as he does with all the other sinners. Virgil actually goes out of the way to say that they are "unrecognizable." I looked this up to see why this might be (Were there just no well known greedy people in ancient times?) and found that many people thought he did that to sort of lump all clergymen in that group. By not naming any specific clergymen he shows that any of the dead clergymen could have been down there knocking their weights together in a circle.
Another thing that stuck out to me:
Sometime later Virgil and Dante go to the city of Dis and Dante describes a ton of Mosques in there. I think its weird that a city full of fallen angels would have a plethora of temples dedicated to god but no doubt the Muslim/Christian history explains that. Regardless of what Mosques really stand for (Gods glory and whatnot) Christians then probably thought of them as havens for the enemy. The Crusades were not that long ago and the Moors were probably still in Spain (is that right?), so Mosques were not something Christians thought of as Godly and therefore Dante threw them in Dis. I guess it could also be inferred that he was saying that cities with Mosques are hell on earth for Christians... I think that's a pretty fun way of thinking about it...
ANOTHER thing that stuck with me:
Sometime after the greedy folks and before Dis a guy gives Virgil and Dante a ride across the mucky river Styx. During this ride a soul actually rises out of the water, grabbing the boat, and talks to Dante and what does Dante do? He's really mean to the guy! The river is full of the wrathful and the sullen (Its where I was sent by that quiz we took)which I would think are relatively forgivable sins, (who doesn't get mad or feel sad sometimes) but Dante is mean! Lemme find the passage...
"Then added, "Who are you, who have become/So brutally foul?" "You see me: I am one/Who weeps," he answered. And I to him, "In weeping/And sorrow remain, cursed soul-for I have seen...
I thought previously he had responded to the damned with relative pity, this though, this is mean. I wonder what Dante has against us sullen and wrathful sinners?
Monday, March 9, 2009
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